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    • ikabod
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 3:20 pm
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    That couch better be made of recycled materials!

    • Steve
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 3:30 pm
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    … From the Nov., 2009 cartoon, ‘Zoned Out’, Zack has re-arranged the furniture… and Allison and Devon are still waiting for Rod Serling to show up.

    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 3:42 pm
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    Global warming, E-I-O:
    This means overheated snow.
    Global warming, A-B-C:
    Means more taxes for you and me.
    Global warming, X-Y-Z:
    Albert’s fat in Tennessee….

    • Nona
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 5:42 pm
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    Such a nice homely family scene.

    I hope they checked the fairy tales first- you know, there could be creulty to animals, misogny, racism, anti-tree propaganda…all kinds of nasty stuff in that book! Let’s hope it’s the Liberal-approved version.

    The good thing about global warming is these cool crisp winter days.

  1. What no one who thinks cartoons like this one are funny ever addresses are:

    (1. The fact that the overwhelming majority of the world science community agrees that this is happening, and

    (2. The obvious conflict of interest between the assertion that human activity does not in any way contribute to climate change, and the financial stakes for those who regularly bankroll these assertions.

    • Manny
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 8:08 pm
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    Corporations…wrong? That’s blasphemy Marbles!

  2. While “corporations” is one of those words that has become ubiquitous to the point where conservatives just tune it out, doing so is nothing but avoidance of the obvious. While “Corporations are evil,” sounds juvenile and silly, the fact is that many powerful corporations have EVERY REASON to muddy the waters of public understanding on certain issues. It is of direct concern to their bottom line that certain policies continue unchanged, or that existing policies be repealed. There’s nothing complicated or mysterious about this, and it’s amazing that so many people are able to overlook such an obvious game of connect-the-dots, and all the implications of the relationship between the GOP and these particular interest groups.

    The tragic part is that this relationship has succeeded in doing what, when you look at it objectively, is truly a surreal feat—-it has managed to turn the ENVIRONMENT into a POLITICAL issue. Think about that for a minute. The environment—the actual world we live in—has become a political issue. What could possibly be more apolitical than the planet all of us live on? But because certain powerful interests back in the 1970s decided that greed was more important than their grandchildren’s futures, the waters have been muddied like crazy, and what should be commonsense debates held only between various factions disagreeing on the best maintenance and efficiency policies have instead become screamfests between political parties. It’s insane.

    • geeknerd
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 8:43 pm
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    Somebody please show Marbles the data to refute both of his assertions; I’m too busy doing productive work (to pay my taxes).

    • sufferlikegdid
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 8:50 pm
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    I know you won’t listen to this because it’s from Al Gore but:

    “An Answer for Bill February 1, 2011 : 11:43 AMLast week on his show Bill O’Reilly asked, “Why has southern New York turned into the tundra?” and then said he had a call into me. I appreciate the question.

    As it turns out, the scientific community has been addressing this particular question for some time now and they say that increased heavy snowfalls are completely consistent with what they have been predicting as a consequence of man-made global warming:

    “In fact, scientists have been warning for at least two decades that global warming could make snowstorms more severe. Snow has two simple ingredients: cold and moisture. Warmer air collects moisture like a sponge until it hits a patch of cold air. When temperatures dip below freezing, a lot of moisture creates a lot of snow.”

    “A rise in global temperature can create all sorts of havoc, ranging from hotter dry spells to colder winters, along with increasingly violent storms, flooding, forest fires and loss of endangered species.”

    Seriously though…I know it pains you to actually research at all how Global Warming actually works but if you’re going to come out against something you might want to do SOME research beyond making wild assumptions about it.

    • Manny
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 8:59 pm
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    I already posted that to an earlier post about “SNOW, THEREFORE, GLOBAL WARMING NOT REAL!” you can read the response there.

    • Manny
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 9:08 pm
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    Oh, and on the point of the strip. I want a painting like that for my house. It can’t be a window, since the light source is in front of them, not behind them.

    • Steve
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 9:41 pm
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    Hi sufferlikegdid –
    As you may know, history is replete with examples of where large population segments have been scared into believing all manners of “crises”.
    Recall the ‘Y2K’ hype & build-up? Now people are pushing a “2012” apocalypse, based on the fact that an ancient civilization stopped developing their calendar at a point… well, when a group of people goes ‘bye-bye’,… no one is around to keep working on the stupid calendar, are they?
    I will be mentioning this the morning of Jan 1, 2013. Stay tuned.

    Obviously, I live on the same planet you do, so I do not have the luxury to escape to some mother planet, if my views are incorrect. So, I have as much ‘skin in the game’, as anyone, alright?

    The promoters of “man-made global warming”, now called “climate change”… to be renamed when more of their lies make it convenient, is being pushed through tried & true scare tactics.

    Al Gore is a shameless fraud, through & through. He has NO credibility. His book, movie and his speeches (those he has not hidden from the media and public) have been totally discredited, over & over again. There is very sober speculation by serious, professional people that Gore is not “…playing with a full deck”. I am serious, all kidding aside.

    The ‘hockey stick’ graph from the East Anglia Climate Research Unit has been exposed as a fraud. Remember those e-mails getting out?? That graph is a contrived LIE… deliberately concocted to support an agenda, to push the “man-made global warming” agenda.

    The assertion that CO2 is a ‘climate warming gas’ has been discredited too. There is factual evidence that the frauds at East Anglia ignored – strong data showing that atmospheric CO2 increased AFTER global temperature increases… NOT before. That is a very important point.

    Everything Obama is pushing through the EPA… -EVERYTHING- is based on that phony ‘hockey stick’ graph, being true. This whole thing is a scam!

    The motives behind Gore and his glo-bull warming mafia are massive interests in a vast taxation scheme, ‘Cap & Trade’… they get rich, Obama and his Goldman Sachs thugs get rich – you & I pay through our noses.

    I can provide the supporting references… if you are inclined to do the reading.

    • Nick
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 10:25 pm
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    I heard warmer winters tend to bring more snow (or maybe even sleet, if it gets warm enough) because warm air tends to be more humid.

    Is this correct?

  3. Link away, Steve.

    • Steve
    • Posted February 4, 2011 at 11:14 pm
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    Nick — I suspect there is no simple answer a meteorologist will have, other than something like “…it all depends on various factors”.

    The sad aspect to this subject is that an area of science has been corrupted by agenda-driven funding for research that has but one desired outcome. Because of research funding with ‘strings attached’, many professionals have sold out their objectivity because they know the ‘hand that feeds them’ – requires a foregone conclusion.

    There is a whole long story how the entire Weather Channel has become prostituted to the ‘man-made climate change’ agenda, too. The gentleman who was a founder of it, has an interesting account of this bastardization of meteorology.

    Where I grew up and attended college, anyone paying a minor amount of attention to the weather can learn a fair amount about snowfall. In Michigan, Canadian cold fronts sweep over the Great Lakes, picking up vast amounts of moisture, and dumping large amounts of snow, sometimes all the way out to the New England states.
    Generally speaking (but not always), larger snow fall happens in a narrow temperature range, from the high 20’s to about 31 degrees.
    Obviously, if the temperature stays above 32 deg., no snow will fall.

    What Al Gore’s latest assertions are conveniently avoiding is the fact that colder temperatures have been pushing deeper into the Southern states, for longer durations, establishing successive record cold temperatures, year after year, for more than ten years.
    Be there snow or not, these record low temperature patterns for so many years have others speculating that we are edging into a mini-ice age.

    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 5, 2011 at 1:30 am
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    So many experts, so little time.
    Global warming should be made a crime
    So that all its truest believers
    Can thump all vicious deceivers
    Who skeptically demand to see
    That capable predicters can be
    Correct for even a month away,
    Before we’d give them rule and sway.
    Alas the models don’t do well,
    Which explains the hard and harder sell
    For global cooling/warming/climate change
    Advocates a global cash exchange
    To take from those who would deceive
    To distribute to those who so believe
    That cash is what’s so deep in play,
    With Gore-ist folks who like to say,
    “Gimme, gimme, gimme more.”
    That’s what climate change has in store.

    • Manny
    • Posted February 5, 2011 at 5:02 am
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    You’re half right with the line “That cash is what’s so deep in play,” Siegmund, but you’re focusing on the wrong side.

    • Brad
    • Posted February 5, 2011 at 6:07 am
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    “Dr Peter Stott, Met Office Head of Climate Monitoring and Attribution and contributor to the report says: “Despite the variability caused by short-term changes, the analysis conducted for this report illustrates why we are so confident the world is warming.

    “When we look at air temperature and other indicators of climate, we see highs and lows in the data from year-to-year because of natural variability. Understanding climate change requires looking at the longer-term record. When we follow decade-to-decade trends using different data sets and independent analyses from around the world, we see clear and unmistakable signs of a warming world.”

    Dr Jane Lubchenco, Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and US NOAA Administrator, says: “For the first time, and in a single compelling comparison, the analysis brings together multiple observational records from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the ocean.

    The records come from many institutions worldwide. They use data collected from diverse sources, including satellites, weather balloons, weather stations, ships, buoys and field surveys. These independently produced lines of evidence all point to the same conclusion: our planet is warming.””

    I agree with Marbles, it’s sad this has become a political issue. The evidence is there for people who are willing to see it. God gave us stewardship over the earth; I doubt he’d be happy with what we’ve done with it.

    Manny- that’s right, the big oil companies have a huge stake in keeping this hidden.

    • Steve
    • Posted February 5, 2011 at 8:00 am
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    Brad —
    Recall the expression, “Follow the money” ?
    Do you know who is behind funding the research in the links you show ?
    Do you recall NASA’s original charter & mission, from the early ’60s ??
    Do you recall it has NOTHING to do with “climate change research’…?

    And do you know what agenda-driven groups have influenced NASA budgets for the past years ? ( a House controlled by a tyrant called Pelosi – now Obama for 2 more years) ??

    NASA now has some twisted Muslim outreach mandate,… are you going to give that the same credibility as that ‘bought & paid for’ BS study you linked ?

    And you revert to the old straw man expression “Big oil” is behind it…
    …a boring, shallow, and over-used cliché for the past 30+ years.

  4. “And you revert to the old straw man expression “Big oil” is behind it…
    …a boring, shallow, and over-used cliché for the past 30+ years.”

    Just take the BP disaster alone. The lengths to which it came to light that the company had gone to maximize their bottom line at the expense of safety. The transparency of the lies they fed the government (who disgustingly pretended to believe them and hoped we would, too) every step of the way. The downplaying at every opportunity of the true scope of the leak.

    The politicians who treated THEM as the victim.

    Who had prior connections with them and their lobby.

    Boring and overused? Sure. Descriptive of a reality that is plain to see? Truer.

    • cobainfan69
    • Posted February 5, 2011 at 9:45 am
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    @Steve: Ooh, “Follow the money”, I love this game!

    Fox News’s 2nd largest shareholder is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal. Therefore they aren’t actually a news network but rather another tool of radical Islam. 🙂

  5. @ cobain:

    Yeah, that Fox News thing was a real eye-opener. This game is a mess of funhouse mirrors that can be used to link anybody with anything. So I’m a lot more mindful of that now when hearing this kind of stuff.

    Regardless, when you have direct lobbying and direct contributions on one end and public defending and apologizing at the other end, it doesn’t need a funhouse mirror to make that look like what it is.

    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 4:48 am
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    The world will end in fire,
    Or then again by ice.
    Sandburg has it both ways.
    Now isn’t that quite nice?

    In Scientific-American I read
    That ice was how we’d go;
    Fast forward just a little while,
    Global fire breeds so much snow.

    What’s the factor joining them?
    Why, money to spread around.
    The only remaining question is
    To whom? And on what ground?

    When green and red are married,
    It’s much like ice and fire.
    They dance together for a while,
    But soon they then expire.

    Gore, revered as prophet,
    And the idyllic old UN
    Are reaching for the money.
    It’s for money they have a yen.

    Cold cash burns pocket holes,
    For hot and cold alike
    Will try to tax us all the more.
    Their argument’s oblique.

    Fire. Ice. Red and green.
    Their barricades pile high.
    The argument’s settled,
    So says the money’d guy.

    He’ll take it from little you
    To spread the wealth around,
    And if you whimper just a bit
    You’ll be hunted down and found.

    We’ll take from you by fire and ice
    What we demand you owe,
    And if that’s not okay with you,
    You’ll feel a heated blow.

    Fire and ice? Green and red?
    One thing’s sure in all.
    The aim is to see us bled,
    Summer, winter, spring and fall.

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