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    • Nona
    • Posted February 9, 2011 at 7:28 am
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    • 21stCentury
    • Posted February 9, 2011 at 7:32 am
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    Actually, global warming doesn’t need to be entirely man-made to be real nor does the higher snowfall invalidate it.

    Firstly, it’s a fact that the average temparature on Earth is slowly rising. The NASA calculates the global temperature with sattelites. It’s rising.

    Secondly, to address the “IF GLOBAL WARMING, WHY SNOW AL GORE?” thing, it’s actually really simple. No doubt you know about the Water Cycle. Water is heated up by the sun, evaporates, forms clouds, gets colder, turns back into water and falls down. Now, it’s it’s cold enough, it’ll form tiny ice crystals and become snow. It’s a common misconception that colder temperatures lead to more snowfall, but when it’s really cold, it won’t snow as much because the air will be a lot drier (Colder = less evaporation, less evaporation = less clouds, less clouds = less snowfall). So a warmer climate than usual will lead to more evaporation (more clouds) and then more precipitation (more rain or snow, depending on the season).

    As for the rest of the year, you’d have to be actively avoiding the news not to see that there’s a lot harsher climates than before. You agree that the snowfall is dramatically higher than usual and, if I recall correctly, last summer was one of the warmest on record.

    So, really, how do you explain the fact that there’s a lot more climate-based disasters going on if not some sort of global climate change going on? Whether or not it’s caused by humans (entirely or in part) is completely irrelevant because we have to deal with the very real effects of it (more snowfall, more tornadoes, more cyclones, more tropical storms, flooding [you know Australia has got a lot of that these days, right?], etc.)

    As for why Global Warming would lead to harsher, colder winters? It’s because of the gulf stream. I won’t go and explain that because this post is getting pretty long.

    And i’ll segue into why we should try to avoid wasting power and fuel/promote green energy. Because oil costs a lot. I mean, holey moley, as time goes on the price of oil just goes up! There’s a limited amount of oil and there’s a lot of it in middle eastern countries. If Americans can solve the energy crisis, who will the world give money to for Electric cars? Americans. America will get more money and the Middle-eastern countries will get less money. Win-win, right? So even if you don’t care about the environment and even if man has 0 effect on global warming, you should support American Ingenuity and not Muslim oil barons (Did you see that huge tower they built with your oil money? I mean, really!)

    I assume I don’t need to talk about feminism either because, of course you don’t disapprove of strong female role models? i mean, you’d have to be pretty backwards to think women aren’t deserving of equality with men in the workplace. I think if you can prove American women kick more ass, America would be better (also, dual income households? Pretty awesome. More green in the blue is good for everyone.)

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    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 9, 2011 at 9:03 am
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    Green companies are folding in the good ol’ USA
    Because without their subsidies the markets just won’t pay.
    The price for green energy is skyrocket high,
    When compared to oil and coal, as a piece of the pie.
    Were one to consistently strip all the subsidies clean,
    The priciest prices come in all shades of green.

    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 9, 2011 at 9:45 am
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    The Climate Exchange in Chicago has closed;
    Something precious few headlines have largely disclosed.
    Range Fuels in Georgia has gone belly up;
    Public monies evaporated in that green hiccup.
    Sioux Falls’s VeraSun Energy is bio-fuels broke,
    As Pacific Ethanol’s Chapter Eleven billows more smoke.
    Aventine Renewables is gone with the wind,
    As against sense and markets it had sinned.
    Robbinsville’s EPV Solar is up the cash creek,
    As one would learn if one took a quick peek.
    California’s Astropower teeters to its fall,
    While Canada’ AAER Wind Turbines perform not at all.
    The US Grain Council says prices are set to soar,
    With biofuels’ passions gouging the poor.
    Green sounded like a way forward so nice,
    As long as one never figured out the price.
    Believe as you will about the trend called green,
    But numbers tell the story, and it isn’t that keen.
    Investments sour and folks are losing their shirts,
    For the consequence of green is something that hurts.

  1. It’s useless, 21st. All the science-based arguments in the world don’t stack up against “The whole thing is a massive fraud designed to line the pockets of politicians with our tax dollars, propped up by scientists who parrot the groupthink party line in order to secure research funds.” Especially since entire government agencies are apparently discredited because…

    Well, because.

    • Jamie
    • Posted February 9, 2011 at 4:08 pm
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    The Princess from “The Princess & the Pea” isn’t really all that empowered…

  2. 21st, a few points:

    1) 2010 was the warmest year on record, but how much arbitrary adjustment have these records undergone to account for Urban Heat Islands, how many data stations are in the sample (see: Climategate NZ), and how much of the data is based on ground based stations next to bbq pits (google for Nasa blindo morons) as opposed to satellite surveys?

    2) I agree that the gulf stream explanation is pretty compelling. That is one reason why it’s so hard to measure ‘global’ climate – who is to say that while the measured areas are getting hotter, other areas are not getting colder instead? If a lot of cold air is being lost from the Arctic, we’d expect to see the Arctic temperatures rising – I have yet to see any report on this aspect. Meanwhile, I believe that Antarctic ice is at the highest and widest levels since measurements began in 1979.

    3) Haven’t there been FEWER cyclones, hurricanes and etc in the past few years, despite improved detection capabilities?

    4) Agreed on the other reasons for a switch away from oil. However, it’s jumping the gun to rush to green just yet – the tech is just not there, just look at Spain and Britain. If the USA leaves fossil fuels behind now, all that will happen is that the USA will catastrophically fail in a few years, thereby setting back the tech advance decades. The world will switch to new energy sources when the time is right. Personally, my money is on the polywell clean fusion reactor being tested by the US Navy.

    5) Back to your opening sentence: Let’s assume the earth’s average temperature is really rising, what is really so bad about it? We went through a mini golden age during the Medieval Warm Period. Siberia could become the new Corn Belt. Does anyone really think that we can stop not only warming, but ANY fluctuation in temperature (since any change, up or down, will cause climate change). And of course, just how much of global temperature change is caused by humans?

  3. New version or old?
    take something good and improve
    but why no laughter?

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