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    • Leaf
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 12:28 pm
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    This is rascist and disrespectful to the people who are fighting for their freedom in Egypt.

    • Steve
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 12:33 pm
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    Really?… how exactly?
    I cannot perceive a racial or ethnic angle in this…

    • Jamie
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 1:04 pm
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    It’s not racist. It’s far, far worse then that. It’s a political joke that’s not funny. :(

    • ikabod
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 1:06 pm
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    I’m looking real hard….. Nope. If your going to point out racism make sure you have racism to point to. Simply using it as method of squelching political commentary is sooooo 2008.
    “This is rascist and disrespectful to the people who are fighting for their freedom in Egypt.”
    Please describe to me the form of freedom these people are fighting for? Freedom of speech? the press? How do womens rights play into this? Freedom of the press? Eh, not so much…
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020307011.html?hpid=top

    One would think the valiant and courageous protesters would want the support of the masses throughout the world with images from the free press! Nah, the pipe dream of Egypt being governed by a secular peaceful people continues to fall apart day after day.

    • Tetsuo
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 1:34 pm
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    If you can’t see how characterizing Egyptians as sub-literate imbeciles just for laughs is at the very least unfunny and insulting, and at worst racist, I don’t know what to say to you. Well, I can think of a couple of things, but they’re not really acceptable in polite company.

    tl;dr: Casual racism always makes unfunny jokes funnier, really.

    • cobainfan69
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 1:42 pm
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    It’s not racist. It’s just a fake quote run through babelfish from English to Arabic to English again! There’s a HUGE difference! (Apparently)

    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 1:43 pm
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    Racism is such a well-used jibe,
    And employed against anybody
    By someone else from some other tribe,
    Although getting old and shoddy.

    Race means what? A color? A land?
    A religion? A nation? A group?
    Ah, but humor offends so quick
    That such “racism” charges troop
    To be offended deep within
    Their deeply offended skin,
    For being offended seems the game
    They’re highly invested in.

    Racism is such a useful word,
    To enforce silence on an issue,
    Be it serious or humor a bit absurd.
    Let’s moan! I’ll fetch a tissue!

    • cobainfan69
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 1:47 pm
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    @ikabod: I believe they’re fighting for their freedom from a corrupt government with a leader that’s remained in power for decades. Of course, I’m sure they really don’t realize that themselves. If they were all Christian, then none of this would have happened and they would have gladly let us send in the troops to fix their government for them.

  1. @ikabod: So you’re blaming the anti-Mubarak protestors because pro-Mubarak militias attacked journalists in an effort to stop news of the protests reaching the outside world. Real great logic there.

    Also, Tetsuo is completely right. I’m not even sure what Zack is trying to say with this comic, but whatever it was he failed spectacularly.

  2. The trouble the American far right has had with the Egypt protests is that they don’t present a narrative with components they can easily latch onto, so they’ve been forced to shoehorn familiar elements into their interpretation, just so they can have a clearly defined “good” and “bad” side. This is why the Muslim Brotherhood factor, while real, has been hyped and exaggerated way beyond its actual prominence (at least so far). It’s also why some people, though a small minority, have hysterically declared that anyone who supports these demonstraters must be wishing for Israel’s demise.

    • thing
    • Posted February 6, 2011 at 5:34 pm
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    @ikabod: yeah, you’re nailing the wrong side there, buddy. it would be nice if you became accustomed to reading past the headline of an article, but that’s okay, i don’t mind.

    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 7, 2011 at 12:00 am
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    “Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton warned on Sunday that removing President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt too hastily could threaten the country’s transition to democracy.” (New York Times)

    Fighting for freedom is good, if freedom really comes;
    Else fighting using “freedom” is a little game that dumbs.
    The oft-reported story goes — some elections are a sham,
    And teaches us repeatedly that “freedom” can be a scam.
    Oddly some “nice” elections choose totalitarian fists
    And shows that calls for freedom contain quite many twists.
    Castro was reelected, so many times we see;
    Why it’s been sixty years of such Cuban democracy.
    The same amount of years has past in Egypt, like Fidel,
    And now the moment comes when unhappy folks rebel,
    Which makes no hint of apology for what has happened there,
    But that’s the Lefty game I’ve seen, which always cries “Unfair!”
    If “freedom” is right in Egypt — and I think this true –
    Then let see freedom fighters in nice Red Cuba too.

    • ikabod
    • Posted February 7, 2011 at 4:04 pm
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    “If you can’t see how characterizing Egyptians as sub-literate imbeciles just for laughs is at the very least unfunny and insulting, and at worst racist, I don’t know what to say to you.” You’ve got to find racism somewhere, ya just gotta! Whatya think, what kind of Democracy are these protestors asking for? One that allows the rights of women? Free speech? The moment the Muslim Brotherhood decided to take up the cause here with the protest I lost all hope of any secular govermental Democracy running things. I’m very suspicious them. My idea would be to keep an eye on those folks. Do you really think if the muslim brotherhood would allow the creation of secular Egyptian government?

    thing: perhaps I was incorrect in my assertion of western journo’s being attacked by anti-mubareck protestors.

    • Jamie
    • Posted February 7, 2011 at 8:20 pm
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    @ikabob: This still isn’t racist, but I can’t help but notice you don’t actually respond to Tetsuo’s point there. You just give him a one-liner and then respond to a different question. I know why it’s not, does anyone else?

    Also, “perhaps”? There is still doubt? Further research is needed? ;)

    @Sieg: You talk in bad petry and that is quirky and I am sure you are a blast at parties, but it makes me a little unsure of what you’re trying to say. Is it that the liberals are dumb for not supporting the over-turning of all dictatorships/communist regimes, and we should be wary of the possibility of an even worse government setting up in Egypt as a result of this uprising? Duly noted, but still, it’s always nice to see a corrupt government go up in metaphorical flames.

    • Tetsuo
    • Posted February 7, 2011 at 9:26 pm
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    @Ikabod: I didn’t say it was racist, I said it could be considered AT WORST racist. I personally don’t think it’s racist per se, I just think it’s insulting and unfunny.

    Also I find it disturbing that you so openly espouse the position that democracy is good only as long as it produces results you agree with.

    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 8, 2011 at 5:56 am
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    Dear Critic of Bad Petry, some repaired lines to visit:
    They might clear things up, though they’re not exquisite.

    If “freedom” is right in Egypt — and I think this true –
    Then let’s see freedom fighters in nice Red Cuba too.

    Corrupt governments all should toast in metaphorical flames,
    For honest consistency is among the loveliest of games.

    All Republicans and Democrats and socialists corrupt
    Can oft be measured by the economies they bankrupt.

    So I ask — Wherein do we so disagree?
    With the content or doggerel of slight poetry?

    As to democracy ending always fine,
    Nazis were elected though they were swine.

    There’s something beyond mere democracy,
    Now what you would you venture that “more” would be?

    • Jamie
    • Posted February 8, 2011 at 2:13 pm
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    Oh, dear, I should have mentioned – no need to take my petty petry tastes to heart! I criticize COMICS and CARTOONS, and am an absolute troglodyte when it comes to anything finer, so my opinion is only worth so much there.

    As to the question at the end, obviously, the answer is “leaders who are not corrupt”, but I’ve given up even hoping for that, anywhere, least of all a hotbed like the middle east.

    • ikabod
    • Posted February 8, 2011 at 6:59 pm
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    “Also I find it disturbing that you so openly espouse the position that democracy is good only as long as it produces results you agree with.” I’m glad you can move the democracy goal post around at will. Nice. When the protestors are shouting that they want democracy, apparently theres a difference between the Democracy that we have here in the US and what the Egyptians can handle? What, their not able to comprehend free elections? A secular goverment? Womens rights? Basic freedoms? I hope your not saying that. Maybe it is too early to tell.

    Jamie: Yeah, that was brain burp….. Still not so sure that the protestors or anti Hosni Mubarak folks are going to be all that nice to the US or Israel, once this is said and done. Only thing we can do is sit on the side lines and watch.

  3. @ Siegmund:

    A novelty ad nauseum’d,
    Is no novelty at all.
    Before thee stand the slumbering,
    Where once stood the enthralled.

    • Manny
    • Posted February 8, 2011 at 10:32 pm
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    quality, not quantity. As I’ve attempted to point out many a time. Same thing about Zack’s churned out photoshops.

    Brevity is the soul of wit as they say, Siggy.

    • Siegmund Wagneryann
    • Posted February 9, 2011 at 3:08 am
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    Nice little rhyme, sleepy Not Enthralled.
    Odd. While slumbering, your cheery rhyme was scrawled.
    I’ve never tried standing while I sleep,
    And if I did, I’m sure that I would crumble in heap.

    • Happy infidel
    • Posted February 10, 2011 at 11:02 am
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    to Ikabod,

    Sir or ma’am, delete whichever gender does not apply to yourself.

    I need to disagree slightly with your comment on democracy. No democracy is not a one size fits all, even amongst democratic countries democracy is different. for example I live in Australia and although many of our laws are similar or the same, many laws are different. As no Egyption living all his or her life in Eygpt has ever lived with freedoms and democracy, those same freedoms and democracy they are calling for may be vastly different from what we have enjoyed for decades and centuries in our respective countries. and also realise that if democracy was perfected why do we have polititions making laws, changing laws and revoking laws, no sir democracy is not one size fits all but rather an evolving pattern of thought brought to fruition. Just my humble opinion. feel free to disagree.


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