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    • Steve T
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 7:53 am
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    The book on top the stack (above’ What America Did to the Native Americans’), could it be something from Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright-?

    Nice touch with the quill, – either that, or an Apple laptop.
    Does Devon know that our Founding Fathers, those white-racist, sexist, slave-owning “homophobes” used quill’s-?
    Even those terrible documents, like the Constitution, were written with a quill. Such counter-progressive symbolism,…for shame-!

    Devon’s face is looking a little more chiseled and tense. Is her PETA-approved veggie diet causing too much tissue atrophy-? In women who have an unusually low body fat indexes, sometimes the fat tissue from the breasts is consumed, they stop ovulating,… so far, that matches Devon,… even if she wanted a (GLAD-approved) turkey-baster baby,… no chance-!
    I can’t wait to see her sour-puss face after election returns in 50 weeks-!

  1. A scream, Steve T. You know Devon all too well. So do I: I used to live in Manhattan! The quill, perhaps misbegottenly, was intended to represent the very real RETROgressive nature of so-called progressives, mired in the past sins of our enormously benevolent country. I almost draped cobwebs around her…

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 8:13 am
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    The quill is a good addition for her.
    Perhaps Allison will take issue with it.

    As opposed to their current M.O. of filing scores of phony ethics charges, like Newt Gingrich & Sarah Palin have faced, I would much rather have their sub-culture squander their energy over such arguments.

    The feud between Sierra and Devon over the Che’ shirt, comes to mind.

  2. I can’t wait to see how those stupid trolls under the bridge deal with this stupid false equivalency this time! THE CHILDREN! >XD

  3. Chris E: You mean liberals AREN’T more preoccupied with America’s failings than they are with global Islamo-terrorism? What world are you living in?

  4. Zack:

    Clearly not the fever dream nightmare world you live in. I mean, those liberals will do ANYTHING in your world. I believe the burden of proof is on you for assertions you make.

    Or I could have an ugly dyke and a child point out how the real reason that all conservatives hate “intellectuals” and “the PC Police” is because they failed out of school and are upset they can’t call people spics and dykes anymore. And then when you correctly claim this is a stereotype and doesn’t represent everyone I can lean back in my chair, look over my badass pair of Ray-Bans and go, “REALLY? WHAT WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN?”

    Understanding that the lives of six billion people have more complexities than a game of Cowboys & Indians is upsetting, I know.

  5. Chris E: Obama and his administration commonly replace legitimate, grown-up terms such as “Islamic terrorism” with cowardly, PC, appeasement-minded bull like “man-caused disaster.” I guess this could be my Exhibit 1 in the case for liberal unseriousness about Islamic terror, but I could spend the rest of the morning fleshing out scores of other relevant examples. Words are (duh!) important in defining our reality; serious-minded people use accurate words, unserious people use watered-down, euphemistic, politically-correct ones.

  6. Steve T– Yeah, it’s about time for a good fight between Devon and Allison. Maybe they could argue over which one of them Michelle Obama would pick if she were gay?

    • ikabod
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 10:09 am
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    Global warming is the single most important threat against our country…. NO! The world! Terrorism is simply a made up neo-con threat designed to throw millions of dollars to the Military industrial complex. Man caused disasters can simply be resolved by talking to our enemies, sending nice letters to Ahmadinejad, and ending support for Israel. Terrorism indeed! Global warming is the real danger! Oh and Capitalism too!

  7. Not every “man caused disaster” is terrorism. Words *DO* mean things, and calling all killings, shootings, etc. “terrorism” cheapens the word.

    I would not consider most of the mass shootings I listed in the last set of comments “terrorism”. They’re deplorable and tragic acts of violence, but they’re not “terrorism”.

    Even the scary Napolitano quote you are so fond of acknowledges terrorism exists, but that there are other forms of “man caused disaster” as well.

    Which dovetails nicely into Ikabod’s old chestnut. Guess what? There are a lot of pressing concerns in the world, and lots of threats to American citizens. Since we’re trading childish “grown ups” vs. “children” insults, adults realize sometimes there’s more than one thing going on. Sometimes you have to multitask.

    Terrorism *is* a real threat, but it’s childish (or faux-naive) neocons who try to brush every other concern or issue under the rug by shouting NO NO IGNORE THAT LOOK WE GOT TERRORISTS as if every single person in the country needs to be on 24/7 armed guard to protect our nation from Muslim invaders.

    • Craig S. Maxwell
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 3:07 pm
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    No, “Not every “man caused disaster” is terrorism.”
    Here, however, is the rub: Obama and crew ARE calling Islamic terrorism “man made disaster[s].”
    To call this euphemistic would be a gross understatement; it is, in fact, nothing less than Orwellian.
    And to suggest that this happens with anywhere near the frequency on the right would be completely disingenuous. The very term Orwellian arose out of the author’s horrific. experiences with left-wing totalitarianism. Yes, of course we have a plethora of other problems. But none are as imminently dangerous as Islamic terrorism

    • wootabega
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 3:17 pm
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    I’m afraid I don’t understand what viewpoint this comic is attacking. Is it Devon who is ignoring a problem, or is it Diversity?

    I guess we can only have one problem at a time in this country.

    • Ken
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 4:27 pm
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    “Devon’s face is looking a little more chiseled and tense.”

    Bell’s Palsy.

    “mired in the past”

    Remember this next time one of you gets the urge to ramble on about the “Founding Fathers”.

    • Sarah
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 4:58 pm
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    Are we supposed to agree with the ugly lesbian strawman? ‘Cause I do. I’d say the numerous radical christian terror plots being hatched are much scarier, considering that all the christian terrorists are here at home, and they have a large portion of the “moderate” christian base that will support their actions.

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 5:28 pm
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    “christian”, like ALL the primary world religions, is capitalized,… it is “Christian”.

    Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism… are all capitalized, because they are proper nouns – dutifully placed here in alphabetical order, so no one will think I am a “Christo-facist”, another word, that one of our ‘under-the-bridge crowd’, who are also unhooked-from-phonics, misspelled with a lower-case ‘c’.

    Even if you may subscribe to the mantra that ‘religion is responsible for more death & destruction than anything else…’, these are STILL proper nouns, and they get a capital letter.

    Unless grammatical relativism has taken over, I do not suspect this is “controversial”.

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 5:36 pm
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    If you think you know something about the Founding Fathers, how about sharing it with us-?
    – complete sentences (without vulgarity) are nice.
    – cogent thoughts that are based in fact, are preferred, too-!

    This will be a new exercise for you, perhaps uncomfortable, but if you can get through it, you may reflect at a later date that it was a ‘growing experience’.

    • Thomas R
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 6:07 pm
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    God this is a shitty webcomic, did you know that more people mock you on a single comedy webpage than you get in your comments box?

    Ah well at least your arts okay I guess

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 6:25 pm
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    Gee T.R.-
    That was really an in-depth analysis,… is there something you disagree with-?

    Did you read up on the characters & story background of D.L.-?

  8. Zack,
    Michelle would obviously pick Sierra, rendering the arguement moot…

    • wootabega
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 10:27 pm
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    “Did you read up on the characters & story background of D.L.-?”

    What’s there to read up on? The entire premise of the comic is “little girl tolerates living with wacky extremist liberal family!”

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 16, 2009 at 11:49 pm
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    Not exactly,…

    To quote Zacks ‘story’ page:

    Diversity Lane chronicles the chaotic lives of an American family fully engulfed in modern Liberalism. As such, they are self-destructive, tormented & a menace to society — a kind of modern-day Addams Family in a never-ending battle with common sense.

    Hmmm – an interesting likeness to certain ‘from under the bridge’ folks who have recently posted comments here.

  9. What? Nothing on the vast multitudes of anti abortion clinic terror attacks or contemporary research on tea parties?

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 1:07 am
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    By all means – PLEASE inform us-!?!

    Cough it up-!!

    • Thomas R
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 2:32 am
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    Okay Steve T I’ll humor you and yes I have read a few of this shitty shitty comic. On the off chance that the author reads this I’ll address my observations to him Before I begin I shall say that I am by Uk standards ‘centre left’ but in truth, my political beliefs system are complex and naunced so defy abritrary labels-something which people which have grown the fuck up usually are.

    The webcomic sucks for the following reasons:

    -The series premise is banal and heavily reliant upon a strawman which of course, don’t exist.
    -it regurgitates right wing talking points without even a hint of self awareness
    -The execution while adequate is often clumsy and the jokes…meh
    -the strawmen are strangely sympathetic simply because they are set up non-entities
    -the ironic thing is that you often validate ‘liberal’ (insert devil horns and flies here or perhaps I worship some ‘worthless’ religion such as Wicca) assumptions about the ‘right’ (I won’t say Conservative since neither really overlap anyway) take a look at this previous shitty episode and analyze how the joke could be taken outside of ….well fuck, I think you’re trying to say that Liberals are socially aware but blind to terrorism?
    -The comic is so smug while being so is painfully stupid
    -Daughter is Rush limbaaaaaaaaugh in a child’s body…probably why she always has the miserable face

    That said the comic does have good points. The art is competent and the idea of a pompous left wing family with straight man children is actually fairly watertight. I recommend looking at the UK comic Viz’s Modern Parents to see it executed well. But then again that’s because Viz’s primary aim isn’t to fellate the Right and instead on quality.

    In short-your web comic is bad and you should feel bad.

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 3:18 am
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    Well, T.R.,

    Interesting – your reply did not address ONE item of “anti abortion clinic terror attacks”, or those terrible findings from “…contemporary research on tea parties?”

    Sounds like another set of empty liberal sound bytes.

    “…Lions and tigers and bears,… Oh my-!!!”

    What draws you and your ‘type’ to visit here — and suffer the serious disagreements you profess-?

    You seem like a hard-core lefty-type… one who resists any means to define, in clear terms the scope of your beliefs.
    This is typical of liberals – who hate that word, and want to be called “progressives”.
    Either way, you and your sorts have nothing in common with the theme of D.L.

    Also – you have some old & boring dysfunctional issues with Rush – perhaps you ought to call his show, and purge your ‘feelings’ to him.
    I suspect Snerdly will put you at the top of the caller list.

    I do not believe in “…should feel bad” liberal expressions.
    We conservatives have a strong leaning towards THINKING, and reasoning, as opposed to “feelings”.
    “Feelings” are fleeting, shallow and extremely subjective.
    HOWEVER – they are very meaningful to YOUR sub-culture-!

    One ‘under the bridge’ example;
    See the spewing reaction of little Ken (sixth above your last comment) – he resorts to his homo-erotic pelvic desires,… given the presumptuous pretence he has the testicular features he imagines in his fantasies, to include his mouse-size priapus.

    • Thomas R
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 3:46 am
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    That’s becouse I didnt give a shit about your bland arguement I was discussing our previous comments.

    You’re raging boner for bland buzzwords aside (hard-core lefty-type=WTF?) you didnt really say anything in that last post so I can hardly refute some bland non-points with some very weird, very irrelivant tangents (feelings?)

    anyway off to do something productive. You continue white knighting this sub-par webcomic I’m sure the author appreciates your efforts assuming you’re not a sock puppet for him.

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 4:03 am
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    Well, do not go away mad – but go away… no one here will miss your impressive cerebral insights.

    Your unwillingness, or inability to address direct issues says plenty about you.
    So, enjoy being “productive”, at whatever you do.

    Just to help; 1Kg of pot, or cocaine = 35.27 oz.

    • Thomas R
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 12:06 pm
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    I think you’ve got him there, he apparantly finds it alien that a ‘liberal’ (whatever that means) could do an honest days work. Plus I couldnt help but notice he doesnt do anything but shitty name calling anyway.

    Just another right wing butt monkey.

    • Mark
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 2:01 pm
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    Chris, can you say ‘projection’?

    It must be depressing under the bridge today. Cheers

  10. Mark,

    Who’s projecting now?

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 4:48 pm
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    Chris E.-
    You are a typical liberal – dishonest to the bone, through & through.
    You made numerous quotation remarks above, implying someone else made them.

    I stand by EVERYTHING I have written here at D.L.

    And you are lazy,… politics and social issues are part of the GROWN-UP world, and you have not arrived there yet.

    One of the key reasons people of your sub-culture resent and hate Christianity, is you are a coward of being judged by its standards, one key component is;
    “Thou shall not bear false witness…”

    Why permit something as inconvenient as that get in YOUR way-?
    Perhaps yellow-journalism could be a part-time income for you-?

    • Thomas R
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 4:56 pm
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    This is actually quite funny,Steve I was wondering if you have any disabilities on the autistic spectrum? In all honesty I’m not trying insult your it’s just your reasoning is rather…..eccentric.

    Plus Chris I think he wants you to show him contempery research on tea-bagger parties and to show him cases of violence against abortion clinics. I suspect he relies somewhat on blogs so doesnt watch regular news

    • wootabega
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 8:41 pm
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    Hahaha, did Chris E seriously suggest that homosexuals are Nazis?

    • wootabega
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 8:41 pm
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    Also is there a reason he types a dash after nearly every sentence

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 9:27 pm
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    And – which one don’t you like, and why-?
    No sniveling permitted.

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 9:29 pm
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    I forgot how much I admire MY own writing… that’s for the walk down ‘memory lane’-! 😉

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 9:30 pm
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    Hey Chris,
    Can I get you to do September too-?
    Your such a good sport-!

  11. Guys, that’s quite enough. I get enough of that infantile behavior from my students. You’re making it no fun to come here anymore so all of you just grow up already and take your temper tantrums elsewhere.


    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 9:33 pm
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    What do you teach, and what age group students-?

    • Tex
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 9:35 pm
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    That post is filled with some concentrated stupid, I tell you what. Fake soldier powers, ACTIVATE!

  12. 9th grade English

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 17, 2009 at 10:43 pm
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    Have you ever heard of a book called;

    Individualized English, by George Biessel-?

    It is more of a grammer work book – extremely well done, and cuts to the ‘crux’ of learning grammer

  13. “Grammer”

    • Manuel Calavera
    • Posted November 18, 2009 at 6:45 am
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    Why do you put a dash/hyphen after most of your sentences Steve? Honest question.

  14. Still waiting -…

    • thesecolorsdontrun
    • Posted November 18, 2009 at 3:17 pm
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    I’m glad to see people holding down the fort and battling the ceaseless tide of stupid from Steve T and the rest of the 1st Chairborne Division. “WE’VE NEVER FOUGHT AND WE NEVER WILL OOORAH! ARMCHAIR WARRIORS, AT EASE!”

    • ikabod
    • Posted November 18, 2009 at 6:01 pm
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    Cuz all the crap the dear leader is doing is working now!

    Unemployment at 10.2….. could be worse right?

    How long will it be before the O takes responsibility for this economy?

    Obama: “Hey Axlrod, how long will this blame Bush thing work?

    Axlrod: “As long as possible! I think you got about another 3 years at least.”

    Obama: “Cool! Now who is on the appeasement apology schedule for today?”

    Side note, I actually want the stimulus package funds used to rebuild the infrastructure.
    However roads and bridge repair take years, and democrat Union Kick backs will only stimulate the economy even more!

    • Manuel Calavera
    • Posted November 18, 2009 at 10:05 pm
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    You keep on truckin with that “blame Bush” meme ikabod. It’ll last you til another Republican is President, I’m sure.

    • ikabod
    • Posted November 18, 2009 at 11:17 pm
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    Manual the Stimulus package was to have stopped unemployment from rising to 10%. That worked well. Jeesh eve China is cutting taxes to stimulate growth…. FUCKING CHINA!

    Oh no we can’t do that! Cutting taxes may keep a rich person wealthy! Better to spread the misery equally! I mean come on is this guy really this stupid? He’s supposed to be smarter than Bush the smartest guy in the White House? He’s either an idiot or he’s doing this deliberately. Yes, Bush was all for the stimulus package as well. DUMB!

    Chicago loses the Olympics Bushes fault:

    I didn’t make this stuff up.

    • Manuel Calavera
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 9:35 am
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    I didn’t say you made it up ikabod, all I said is you keep at it with the “BLAME BUSH” meme/paranoia. Everyone else will.

    • ikabod
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 10:25 am
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    Are you actually telling me I can look around the “internets” and find nothing from the left blaming Bush now? So we have moved on? Please, Really?

    “Obama has so-to-speak taken responsibility for it in that he’s made attempts to try and repair the situation.”

    Thomas R.
    I do get the economic recession. I also have friends who are out of work. Yet the methods he is employing are counter productive. Instead of worrying about a public option in the health care bill, he needs to concentrate on job creation. Lowering taxes on businesses is one way. Yet the reduction of taxes is just not something neo-libs do. So until that happens I don’t consider him really trying at all.

    • thesecolorsdontrun
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 1:17 pm
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    Um I for one would prefer a public option in the healthcare bill because that way if one of your friends gets injured, they can afford to get the treatment they need, even when they’re unemployed.

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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    85% of employed Americans are content with their present health coverage.

    After the ‘BS’ propaganda of “43-45” million uninsured is refuted by facts, there are only 4-5 million American citizens who want health insurance, but cannot afford it.

    There are several million Americans who can afford insurance, but elect NOT to buy it.

    Not to be ‘insensitive’, but many illegal aliens are parasites off the US taxpayers. They can go back home. They do not deserve to get coverage from the US taxpayer.

    Try – HEALTH SAVINGS accounts – and these can be given (for a simple few billion $$ a year) to those 4-5 million, who are unemployed, or otherwise cannot afford them, with the terms that they shop the free market, for health coverage with a 7-8 thousand dollar account each year. What they do not use, is their money to use, tax-free.

    This preserves a free-market health care system, provides these folks a strong incentive to shop around, and combined with serious tort reform, is a strong win-win for all those who appreciate keeping an intrusive Federal government out of our medical decisions.

    So ‘colors’ – you want a multi trillion dollar Federal take-over of 1/6th of the US economy, aka “public option”-?
    Your faith in the Federal Gov. is without basis – I invite you to seek and learn about the vast numbers of wounded veterans who are undertreated/mistreated by the government system.

    So many things work very much better, when the free market is allowed to work.
    History repeatedly proves this true.

    • ikabod
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 2:52 pm
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    I have a problem with the “free” health care debate. Free does not make it “better”, and its not really free. Its going to cost billions, more like trillions. Like Social Security will never be cut, regardless of how much it costs. Then there’s the outright fraud that will go out of control. And when there are calls from conservatives for investigations… Who’s going to scream that conservatives want children, minorities, and women to die? I know it may seem like I chasing problems that have not happened yet. However, Medicare and the VA are notorious for bad service and riddled with fraud.

    I have yet to hear anything about safe guards to prevent this. Only, get it done and get it passed. If neo-libs really think that making health care free is going to resolve the issue of folks without insurance, are they going to be the ones to spearhead the operation to make it better than private health care?

    • MethodsitMin
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 5:16 pm
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    Thomas R sounds like another regular poster with a handle change, very much like Ken.

    • MethodsitMin
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 5:20 pm
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    Ah, yes, there was a regular who said that Diversity looked liked Rush Limbaugh in a plaid sress, I can’t remember who that was, but dollars to donuts Tom R is a multiple personality. Trolls are so transparent. LOL.

    • ikabod
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 5:38 pm
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    trolls do little it seems to defend the one they support. Flinging insults is the motis operendi. Its easy, Its fun and best of all its free. The stimulus package was to bailout and stabilize the economy. I really believe that if the porkulus package was not rammed through we still we would be in the same place we are now. 10.2% unemployment. But we did save/create 630000 jobs. I wonder how many of this money included congressional districts that don’t exist?

    Oh but they’ll fix it:

    Yep nothing like good responsible government run by neo-libs! And yes if a Republican is supporting money in districts that don’t exist, I want them impeached. $800,000,000,000 Don’t worry though kids. Your kids will be stuck with the bill. But hey they’ll have their health care…..
    If this is Keynesian economics please show me its successful implementation. Anywhere. Or is this theory like communism? Where doing it wrong?

    • wootabega
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 5:52 pm
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    Haha, you’re right MethodistMin. In addition, Thomas R is also a big stupid poo-poo head! Those liberals are so childish, am I right?

  15. Steve, I have not heard of it, but there are so many English books out there it’s not funny. Grammar is a tough thing to teach. I try to do it in the context of the lesson I am teaching, but at some point I will find it and take a look at it.

    • Manuel Calavera
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 8:40 pm
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    Nah Method, Zack’s comic just gets posted to a political subforum of a big messageboard, along with many other authors. From The McCoy brothers, Chuck Asay, Mike Miller (aka, Hapajap), Day By Day…to liberal artists, like Stantis, and Tim Krieder. I’m gonna guess at least half of the liberal posters here come from that thread.

    I just like posting here more than elsewhere for two reasons. One, I don’t have to register an account. And two, The discourse level is generally more level-headed and doesn’t descend into vitriol and insults as much as say, iowntheworld.

    ikabod – “Are you actually telling me I can look around the “internets” and find nothing from the left blaming Bush now? So we have moved on? Please, Really?” Again, I didn’t say that either and you know it. I never made that claim, you are though. I’ll say it again, and expand a little more. Keep up with that paranoia… ie, thinking EVERYTHING BAD EVER will be blamed on Bush.

    • ikabod
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 10:14 pm
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    You don’t have to make any claim of the left using Bush as the cause of our economic woes now. You don’t have too. The neo-libs are more than capable of doing that for you. In any event I look forward to the day that the MSM, DAILYKOS, Democrat underground and perhaps even the Huffington post provide any honesty in their assessment of the current administration. Im not holding my breath either.

    • doug
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 10:15 pm
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    Ya! History is only for liberal “dykes.”

    Knowing about historical cases of oppression due to misconception and dehumanization is totally inapplicable the currently percieved “Islam problem.”

    • ikabod
    • Posted November 19, 2009 at 11:09 pm
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    “the currently perceived “Islam problem.”

    They love us then for our Federal court system?

    Why can’t we be honest with this. There are the majority of Muslims that are fine people. Peaceful and caring. Yet we are supposed to not point out the obvious. A large and growing element of Islam indeed has a problem, liberals lack of understanding is somehow based on the paradigm that if we ignore it will go away? Typical. The reality of this is that liberals stand clear from critical assessments of Islam. Since, well they don’t want the shit storm on them. Case in point, in the film 2012, Roland Emmerich is keen to not have a sacred Islamic site destroyed in the film:
    “Well, I wanted to do that, I have to admit,” he admits. “But my co-writer Harald [Kloser] said I will not have a fatwa on my head because of a movie. And he was right. … We have to all … in the Western world … think about this. You can actually … let … Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have … a fatwa, and that sounds a little bit like what the state of this world is. So it’s just something which I kind of didn’t [think] was [an] important element, anyway, in the film, so I kind of left it out.”

    Yeah, Christain sites, Jesus, fair game. Mohammad? Ooooh we can’t do that. Someone may hurt us! The only time we clearly move on is when we are honest with the problem. Clearly, liberals have a problem with honesty. It easier, and less painful to simply scream racism or islamaphobia than admit we have a group of people that actually want to kill us. I guess well find out if they hate us for our “torture”.
    Nope its there problem, ignore it. The Taliban never allowed Women the right to education… ignore it. Yeah when liberals are met with the possibility of getting a blown up by terrorist, courage is thrown under the bus.

    • Steve T
    • Posted November 20, 2009 at 4:11 am
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    I agree – grammar is tough to teach, especially in the present times of shifting standards within the English language [grammatical relativism-?]

    Look at a the word “racism”.
    Its original meaning (consistent with other words ending in “…ism”) means one who has a belief in the inherent superiority of one race above another.
    Very ‘cut, dried & simple.

    Thanks to the present J. Jackson – Al Sharpton driven standards, “racism” has been blurred with the meanings of ‘prejudice’, ‘bigotry’, or just a simple generalization (which may be based in truth on one’s genuine experiences), that ruffles someone who has no sense of humor. (Devon’s sub-culture).
    Further, their twisted agenda has bastardized the word “racism” towards their agenda; i.e., ‘…a black person cannot be a racist, or say anything racist, because he is a minority, and whitey has all the power.’

    What shallow pulp-!

    Back to grammar-
    Spell-check in MS-Word likes to insist that possessive noun use gets an apostrophe before the ‘s’.
    Ex: ” Toms bat ” gets inappropriately corrected to ” Tom’s bat “.
    I know I have become rusty as hell in grammar and spelling, but these characters ought to appreciate that their software has a very wide impact on such standards.

    George Beissel was my 8th grade grammar teacher, back in the mid ’70’s.
    And his book is a no-frill’s, right-to-the-point, efficient work book (soft cover), and is worth every penny.

    If you have a discretionary budget, I would encourage you to get a copy.
    I would not be surprised if you would become interested in use it for teaching, or individual tutoring (some things require no improvements).

    Candidly, if I were to help home school a youngster, I would blow the dust off my copy in a heartbeat. If I had a chance to look like a good grammar teacher, this book would do it.

    FYI – in full disclosure, I have no vested interest in this book. Heck, it may be ‘out of print’ by now.

    Ref: Individualized English, by George Beissel

  16. Wait a minute, possessive nouns are NOT supposed to get apostrophes? According to what? Someone had better inform everyone from the last couple centuries of print!

  17. I have not studied a great deal of older grammar books, but contextually:

    Pilgrim’s Progress (1678)
    Alice’s Adventure in Wonderland (1865)


    I have dozens of books printed in the first half of the 20th Century and several from the 19th Century that use possessive apostrophes consistently. Shakespeare’s first folio from the 17th century is available verbatim online, and he used possessive apostrophes. Can you show anywhere outside of your grammar book that does NOT use possessive apostrophes from anywhere in the past 500 years or so?

  18. I’m also unclear as to how the addition or deletion of possessive apostrophes has any sort of ideological bias.

  19. Addenda: if you go to Google Books and search “possessive noun” in public domain books there are literally *thousands* of grammar books, most of them at least eighty years old.

    I only checked the first page or two, but they universally prescribe apostrophes to indicate possessive nouns.

    Google Books also has decades’ worth of Time and Life magazines, which are chock full of possessive nouns indicated by apostrophes. They’ve even infiltrated the original text of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.


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