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    • Steve T
    • Posted September 8, 2009 at 12:04 pm
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    From the folks I have spoken to who have visited Cuba, this is much like the “Dear Father Fidel…” bilge that is drummed into the young school children, on that inprisoned island.

    Before long, Obama will have his very own version of a ‘little red book’ – just like chairman Mao did…100’s of millions in circulation, manadatory for everyone to carry.

    Could “YAY BARACK” be altered to “YAK…”-?

    • ikabod
    • Posted September 8, 2009 at 2:28 pm
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    Right on the money. Although my kids were spared our dear leaders speech I did indeed want them to hear it. If nothing else but for the historical significance of it all. Now I don’t imagine for one minute that some sort of communist, collectivist nor Maoist teachings would have subliminally embedded into the transmission. My kids are are well aware of the progressive agenda, and as such prepared for it. Let us also not for the progressives out there who are shocked, SHOCKED! that some parents are upset at this address should pipe down. They pulled this crap even worse back in 1991 when President George H.W. Bush spoke to the schools.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/When-Bush-spoke-to-students-Democrats-investigated-held-hearings-57694347.html

    I don’t believe its subversive…….. at least not yet….

    • Buzz Bannister
    • Posted September 8, 2009 at 4:55 pm
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    When I was in school there was a picture of Lincoln on one side of the flag and Washington on the other…we said the Pledge each morning but on Mondays before the pledge the principal played the Lord’s Prayer over the PA. I remember my 4th grade teacher telling us one of our classmates was very ill and we prayed each morning for him. 47 years later I still keep in touch with many of them–we all pretty much raised our kids to be good parents and good spouses and to love their country…nobody ever told us we had to love our President…just respect the office.

  1. I’ve gotta say, on this one I don’t particularly mind. The President wants to tell kids to study hard and wash their hands? I’m okay with that.

    I didn’t mind when Bush 41 did it in 1991, and given the text of the actual speech, I don’t see any reason to mind it today.

    Since the NEA got rid of those ridiculous teachers’ suggestions about “helping Obama” and such, honestly, I find it hard to get worked up about this particular issue. Especially when there are so many others out there to get worked up about.

    That said, I was one of the “scare-mongering horde” who called my kid’s superintendent to find out just how they were handling the speech. No live broadcast; just taped it for teachers to use if they want to. And no plans to do anything with it from my daughter’s teacher.

  2. Joseph– I appreciate your point; the speech was innocuous– after, that is, the nation aired its well-founded suspicions over the various activities that had been slated for the kids to partake in before and after said speech. And I think we were all spot-on in registering our mistrust beforehand; Obama does after all hire communists for key administrative positions; such a president’s every move should be carefully reviewed by the American people for the duration of his term in office.

    All that being said, the cartoon was actually intended to target not the speech but rather the overwhelming left-leaning tilt in our public schools. It’s like: regardless of whether the speech did or did not propagandize (and I don’t think it did), the schools themselves ALREADY are drenched in Obamism.

    Am not at all sure that this concept registered with a lot of visitors today; oh well, we do what we can.

  3. Buzz: All kidding aside: your comment warmed my spirit. *Sigh*… remember when school was all about learning, and we didn’t have to wonder what propaganda was being shoveled down our kids’ throats on a daily basis, with or without Obama inserting his two cents?

    • Longfellow
    • Posted September 8, 2009 at 10:35 pm
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    Oh, for the love of….

    I’m willing to bet that not one person here – at least none of those accusing Obama of “socialism” or making “little red book” comments – has actually lived in a socialist or communist state, or even visited one.

    I have.

    And that is why I find these accusations simultaneously hilarious and repulsive. If you’d actually seen and experienced the kind of absurdity that really happens in a communist state, you’d know how ridiculous trying to draw analogies between that and Obama really is. Feel free to accuse him of leading the country down an undesirably liberal path, feel free to attack the cult of personality that most certainly surrounds him, but please, some perspective.

    And for those concerned about propaganda in schools – remember, this is far from the first time schoolchildren have been subjected to potential propaganda. Take the “safety drills” that took place while the nation was still gripped by the Red nuclear menace, for example. Or outside of politics, how about corporate sponsorships of child-oriented activities, or McDonalds et al. advertising during children’s programming. Children are always the first target.

  4. This is what I love about political discourse today.

    It’s no longer enough to believe that where there’s smoke, there is fire. Even if there is no smoke, people will still pull the fire alarm.

    First everyone panics about the potential INDOCTRINATING COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA that Obama will doubtlessly foist upon schoolchildren. When that doesn’t come to pass, and instead he gives the boilerplate “Be Cool, Stay in School” message that everyone does, grouse about how he probably changed his mind when he saw your righteous anger, and he *would’ve* done something horrible had he not been pre-emptively attacked for it.

    Even then, still worry about the “subliminal” evil he worked into the speech, and worry that this is simply a slippery slope towards Ludovico Technique programming of your children towards homosexuality and compulsive abortion.

    There’s also the matter that yes, other Presidents have made similar addresses, and yes, some people on the Other Team decried that action in the past.

    It was stupid when Democrats attacked this practice under Reagan or Bush I, and neither of those set us down a “slippery slope” towards full-scale “Dear Leader” Cuban/North Korean/Nazi Germany hellscapes.

    Why is it any better for people to do it now?

    • Donna C
    • Posted September 8, 2009 at 11:08 pm
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    We homeschool. Total non-issue for us. =o)

    I completely understood the message Zack…a bit like being unable to see the forest for the trees. Excellent, as always.

  5. Steve you got it right, just ask any Cuban exile who went through the system and escaped Cuba.

    Joseph, it’s in your face and you can’t touch it! It’s who is making the speech, that’s annoying and uncalled for! Who the hell is ANYBODY, Obama, Bush senior, ANYBODY, to tell me how my child should pursue his or her life. I can tell them myself, don’t get in my life and tell my son or daughter what they should or should not do. And of all people, Obama, he’s the worse example for ANY kid to follow! A POLITICIAN! This is a disgrace! What the hell has he achieved. He’s a scam, a phony a fraud. The last thing I would like for my son or daughter to be is a POLITICIAN! They are full of lies and deceit! Who the hell does Obama think he is, Jesus Christ? Let me tell you, I am outraged! Every American should be outraged with this speech! This guy has been our President for a few months and has not achieved anything at all. All he has tried to do is make America a Socialist country!

    What will your contributions be? He asks the Kids. My answer is: to get rid of people like you Obama, to get rid of Socialist-Marxist manipulators like you Mr.President!

    And Zack, your illustration here is the exact Goal behind the Obama speech today. Great Job!!

  6. Hey Longfellow, where did you grow up??

    • Steve T
    • Posted September 9, 2009 at 12:37 am
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    Longfellow-
    Wow-!! I am ready to fall off the edge of my chair with your drama – drum rolling profound statement:

    “I have”.

    Alright – how many years did you spend under the thumb of Mao Tse Tung (SP?) -?

    How many years under ‘Father Fidels’ benevolent grace-?

    You know who the most dedicated, capitalistic, Constitutionally conservative folks in THIS country are-?
    Naturalized citizens who came from those oppressive societies.

    If you bothered to notice numerous PR stunts the Obama people have used, the techniques are very much like the personality figure-head worship used in the Castro, Chi-com, former Soviet and other Communistic states.

    The slight audio ‘re-verb’ is a choice tactic Obama uses when he speaks – just as recently as this Labor Day, in front of his union-thug minions.

    So, after your laughter or throwing-up is completed, please, please enlighten ALL of us about the full scope of your extended commie-land camp-outs,… or hammer & sickle sojourns.

    Inquiring conservatives want to know-!

    • Longfellow
    • Posted September 9, 2009 at 1:08 am
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    I actually have lived in China – not under Mao, granted, but it doesn’t matter if the cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice – and speak (to varying degrees) three Chinese languages. And no, there is no resemblance between the techniques, rhetorical or otherwise, between Obama’s administration and the Chinese regime.

    A cult of personality, like the one that absolutely surrounds Obama, is not an inherently, or even exclusively, communistic trait. I hesitate to point it out because I know what will happen next, but Reagan was absolutely the head of a cult of personality, as were Tony Blair, Bob Hawke, Lee Teng-hui, and any number of other leaders in any number of other countries.

    But to be entirely honest, the main reason I find the proposed parallels to a communist regime ridiculous is not so much having lived under one as currently living under the shadow of one. As a resident of Taiwan I know full well what the Chinese have done, are doing, and would dearly like to do, both to their own people and to those they wish were their own. When the threat of invasion – or at the least devestation – from a communist state is looming over your head, you tend to pay attention.

  7. Longfellow, I respect your “Views” because that is all they are. You were an observer only and a quiet one. But did you go out to demonstrate on the streets for Human Rights and along with the Taiwanese people, then you will know what it really is like to live in a Communist state. Yes, I know that we are comparing here with Obama’s Administration but if you do not see a conspiracy going on right now then you are blind. The Liberal Left and the Anti-Communist right have been fighting each other since the 60’s here in America, that’s a fact. Thank god the Anti-communist right has had control of the Armed Forces up to now but if this Obama administration could acquire the Armed Forces then we would be living like the Taiwanese, completely different story, would you agree with this?

    • Tyrone
    • Posted September 9, 2009 at 4:46 am
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    yo wat da fuck is all this comunism shit? u hella scurred of a brutha aint ya

    • Methodistmin
    • Posted September 9, 2009 at 7:11 am
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    Yo, wat the “f” is all this foolish trolling? If you’re a “brutha”, I’m Toni Morrison.

    And for the take of one conservative African American on Obama and Democrats see:

    http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/

  8. Nice job Zach. When I first heard the story it reminded me of walking into a school in Iraq and looking through the textbooks and seeing pictures of Saddam saying how evil the west was and the pictures of Palestine encompassing today’s Israel. Of course this example is an extreme compared to what happened yesterday. What I think people such as Longfellow do not consider though is that if people sit by idly and do not say anything we could very easily end up like these countries.

    Like you said, the speech ended up innocuous AFTER people raised concerns. It would have been interesting to see what was originally in the speech. Obama’s proven poor judgment in his first days makes such scrutiny reasonable. Do we really think Van Jones would be sitting at home right now if us right wingers had not exposed him.

    • Methodistmin
    • Posted September 9, 2009 at 11:41 am
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    I have a feeling-unfortunately, that Van Jones is not sitting at home. I think he’s still on the payroll-just not with the official title.

  9. True…true…methodistmin…could be, but hopefully not.

    Though it does make you pause and think of the others who are working quietly behind the scenes if they are willing to put someone like that out in the open.

  10. Oh cripes, two Chrises. I’ll have to use an initial now.

    Let me just repeat, “It’s no longer enough to believe that where there’s smoke, there is fire. Even if there is no smoke, people will still pull the fire alarm.”

    When in doubt, just claim that your enemy is lying and that he’s hiding everything from you, if you cannot actually criticize anything of substance. It’s a sure-fire way to never have to change your mind.

    I can only imagine that all of the reasonable things you guys say sometimes are LIES, and that secretly off the site you are saying truly vile and disgusting things. Because that’s how this works, right?

  11. Thanks for the good word, Chris. With your military background and very thoughtful writings as well, your opinion carries great weight with me. Much appreciate you stopping by, looking forward to revisiting your own excellent blog this week. http://thesteadyconservative.com/wordpress/

    • Tyrone
    • Posted September 10, 2009 at 12:21 pm
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    toni morrison aint methodist yo

  12. Chris E. – So your saying there should be no scrutiny? Did you have a problem with Democrats calling the Education Secretary to testify and the calling of an investigation when Bush (I) spoke to the kids? Just Curious.

    As Zach pointed out earlier though, the cartoon was really more encompassing than this one incident. I would agree that the American history taught in our schools is so watered down with a liberal slant that kids today do not get a true version of our heritage or past mistakes (FDR New Deal policies for example)

  13. Jose, sorry– we just must disagree on this one. I don’t have a problem with politicians reinforcing the messages I already give my kid. Study hard, stay in school… they scrubbed the political stuff and I’m okay with that.

    I oppose just about every policy initiative that Obama has on the table. But that doesn’t mean I think that everything he does should be opposed. Even Professor Utopia can send out an innocuous message every once in a while…

    • Cylar
    • Posted September 29, 2009 at 4:15 am
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    toni morrison aint methodist yo

    Yo, you be missin da point, homey.

    Piss off.


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