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  1. Great angle on the characters, and the shadows from the trees are a nice, creepy touch. You can just hear the “Halloween” music playing in the background as Diversity flees in terror like Jamie Lee Curtis and Alex slowly and relentless follows!

  2. But Wes, better Michael Myers on your trail than the threat of this summer camp. (Thanks)

    • ikabod
    • Posted August 5, 2009 at 11:09 am
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    Careful Zack your liable to give some northern California camp ideas….. Spot on as usual Zack.

  3. Thanks Ikabod. I’d be surprised if ideas along these lines AREN’T already being enacted in California.

    • Mark
    • Posted August 5, 2009 at 11:59 am
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    For some odd reason I’m compelled to say,
    Run Forrest RUN

  4. Great Illustration Zack! Mark, maybe, Run for your life is more appropriate. Oh, Zack, maybe this would be a camera installation you know, “Neighborhood Watch” I know it’s not intended to be but I’m sure cameras will show up soon in some of you Amazing and Relieving Art. I also posted the Campbummers one and two on my Cubanology Blog.
    Here: http://cubanology.com/cubareport/?p=2197

  5. Thanks Zack, every comic is laugh-out-loud funny. I lined your current comic to my new blog “Letters to Liberals”

    http://letterstoliberals.blogspot.com

    Thanks for bringing humor when we need it most!

    Jason

    • wootabega
    • Posted August 5, 2009 at 5:47 pm
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    I see you learned nothing from what I advised. I wish you the best of luck in the sea of tar known as political comics.

  6. I’ll accept that, Mark. Any fresh and reasonably sane comment is welcome here.

    …but I do like your addendum, Jose: “Run for your LIFE.” I guess all of us on my side of things have felt that “gotta get away” impulse when confronted with some of the utopian and dehumanizing impulses of the Left. Thanks for the comment and the post.

    I’ve seen and blogrolled your new “Letters to Liberals” site, Jason. Nice opening posts there, good luck with it.

    • Donna C
    • Posted August 5, 2009 at 6:21 pm
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    How DARE you NOT take woot’s advice, Zack! Very egotistical of you!

    P.S. Seems woot is awfully jealous of your talent, and pissed that it is yours to do what you will, with.

  7. wootabega: I’m a b-a-a-a-d boy…

    Interesting take, Donna. Maybe HE wants to be the one drawing the awful political cartoons?? Is this true, woot? I can turn you on to some great How To Draw books…

    • wootabega
    • Posted August 5, 2009 at 10:31 pm
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    No jealousy here. Just disappointed. I would have loved to see your talents applied to a better medium. I look forward to any work you have beyond drawing Diversity Lane.

    Now as for Donna, I have a sneaking suspicion you are actually the green-eyed monster here. I’m sure you too can make it big in the world of art by photographing your bodily wastes in some provocative manner. Keep reaching for the stars!

  8. zack, just TERRIFIC…I appreciate your ability to both draw and write text so cohesively and cleverly..Thanks!

    • Donna C
    • Posted August 5, 2009 at 11:11 pm
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    Keep telling yourself woot. You know what they say about a lie repeated oft enough…

    As for that green-eyed monster you speak of, I fear that is nothing less than your reflection staring back at you. That nightmare won’t hurt much…beyond your ego, that is.

    I’ll leave the bodily wastes medium to you…seems that libs are the ones who delight in putrefaction.

    • wootabega
    • Posted August 6, 2009 at 6:02 am
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    For the last time I’m not a fucking liberal. Do you call everyone who disagrees with you a liberal?

    • Norman Hines
    • Posted August 6, 2009 at 7:19 am
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    Wootabega: All you do is repeatedly say “Political Cartooning is BAD! It’s a FACT!” without ever illucidating on why you think it’s bad. With tactics like that, is it any wonder we assume you to be a fornicating liberal? That’s what they do; repeat the same statement (in their case, ususally a lie) often enough until everyone believes it. Well, liberals and folks in the Marketing department.

  9. Also, wootabega, your easy-breezy reaching for the four-letter word is a well-worn liberal path. (Yes of course conservatives also swear but not so easily and certainly not so publicly.) And just as Norman repeatedly points out, you fail to even attempt an explanation of the “why” behind your declaration that Political Cartoons = Garbage. This strikes a lot of us as a patently liberal attitude, since it resonates with superficiality. A conservative is concerned with the deeper meaning of all things rather than the immediate, superficial allure of those things; the consequences, as opposed to the instant gratification factor. Hence, to reiterate, your lack of back-up reasoning for your strong assertion naturally leads the average visitor here, rightly or wrongly, toward the presumption of liberal-to-left thinking. At any rate we’d really appreciate your reasoning– the “why”– behind that strong assertion; who knows, maybe you’ll convert me if it’s sound enough?

    • ikabod
    • Posted August 6, 2009 at 9:54 am
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    Wootabega I could care less weather or not your a liberal. I tend to not allow folks both liberal or conservative to annoy me. Your attempt at controlling Zack here is comical. Look I get it. You don’t like political cartoonist. Apparently YOU didn’t listen to MY advice. Turn. Your. Internets. Off.

    • Donna C
    • Posted August 6, 2009 at 10:46 am
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    Woot…look again. I’ve never called you a liberal. Did I imply there could be a connection? Absolutely. As stated already, your actions are screaming out “liberal”…that is no fault of mine. To be frank, were I to slap any label on you, it’d be more along the lines of “libertarian-socialist”, edging toward “Stalinism”. But I can only go on how you represent yourself here. If only I cared, though.

    As for labeling those I disagree with as “liberal”, gonna have to go with a big nope on that one. A person’s actions will always define them, I have learned. It makes debate so much easier, when one knows what they are up against…wouldn’t you agree?

    Now a question for you: do you always become foul-mouthed, and insulting when someone gets your dander up?

    • Longfellow
    • Posted August 6, 2009 at 11:33 am
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    Zack, I have to disagree on the cursing being a liberal thing. If anything, wouldn’t liberals be opposed to swearing for its potential to offend?

    Plus Dick Cheney is sure as hell no liberal, but he’s got no problem with working blue. And there are plenty of other examples.

    And Donna – please, be more considerate with your labels. Labelling just anyone a “Stalinist” based on the flimsiest of assumptions does nothing but make you look over sensitive and cheapens what should be a powerful and feared (rightfully so) label. Words are powerful weapons, and deserve to be treated with the same respect you would afford any other weapon.

    • wootabega
    • Posted August 6, 2009 at 11:34 am
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    See, comments like Norman’s are part of the reason I hate political cartoons. Nearly every single one boils down the whole social political spectrum to black and white, and doesn’t really help with advancing any ideas.

    You either get liberal artists drawing conservatives as raving lunatics or conservative artists drawing liberals as raving lunatics. The whole medium of political cartooning is a clusterfuck of strawman arguments and hackneyed attempts at jokes. Too many times the artist crams words into the mouths of officials they find incompetent to help illustrate a tired argument as to why they hate them (and why you should too!).

    And most every comic forgets to utilize any kind of real punchline, and instead just gives some tired argument which is essentially masturbatory expression, or what can simply amount to as an annoying little temper tantrum over some recent political happening. And most every comic presents these incredibly annoying and boring comics through poorly drawn work.

    I don’t really have too much of a problem with the actual content of what people express. My major problem with political comics is that they aren’t entertaining at all. I think this stems from the fact that most political cartoonists are activists for their beliefs first, and actual writers second. Instead of actually eliciting any kind of entertainment, they’re more or less designed just to agitate people of opposing beliefs or be an exercise in self-indulgence for the artist. It doesn’t help any kind of cause for advancing beliefs, it just creates more amounts of stupid conflict between people. I personally just wish nearly every political cartoonist would just go start a political blog or something.

    So there, there’s a short summary of why I hate political comics.

    Now please tell me what “actions” I’ve done make me look “liberal”. Is it the fact that I had a “weak argument”? Is that really a purely “liberal” trait?

  10. wootabega: I appreciate the earnestness and honesty of your argument. Needless to say, I disagree; I guess the crux of my disagreement with your presentation here is this sentence: “My major problem with political comics is that they aren’t entertaining at all.” In my personal experience a great many people do find them entertaining, and sometimes, occasionally, even a little clarifying. I hope we can agree to disagree.

  11. Longfellow:

    “If anything, wouldn’t liberals be opposed to swearing for its potential to offend?”

    Naaah– liberals love to swear. Makes ’em feel, well, liberated. Though you’re right that they often seek to not offend, it all depends on whom you’re offending. They only seek not to offend certain, particular types, such as minorities. They have no problem at all offending, for example, religious people– and the religious are among the kind more likely to be offended (or rather, put off a bit) by public swearing. Ergo, swearing is no biggie to many liberals. And RE: Cheney, of course there are examples to be found of conservative swearing, there are very few all-or-nothing propositions in life, nothing is 100%.

    • buckitz
    • Posted August 7, 2009 at 4:40 am
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    Are we sure woot is a male?
    Because it sounds like my mother, to be honest.

    When my mother objected to my choice of art subject, I suggested that she learn to draw the kittens and Holly Hobbie like little girls and show me how it’s done.

  12. Many thanks for that, Z… coming from one of the most cohesive (and charismatic) bloggers around that’s high praise.

  13. Donna: It finally hit me in the middle of the night why wootabega’s anti-political cartoon stance seems so off-kilter and unsettling. I’ll wrap it in an analogy. Imagine woot going to a county fair. There, he happens to meet and chat up a local farmer who tells him that he (the farmer) is a spinach grower, that’s his trade, his livelihood, etc. So then woot proceeds to angrily launch into a tirade to the tune of: I can’t STAND spinach, you really should STOP HARVESTING IT. Spinach is lousy, the flavor, the look, it’s all just THE WORST. PLEASE stop growing and selling this crap!

    (If desired you may replace the spinach factor with, say, Riesling wine, positing wootabega in a Napa Valley setting, angrily demanding that the owner/marketer of a Riesling vinyard please knock it off, the stuff’s just no damn good.)

    My point of course, Donna (and woot) is that the world has been enjoying political cartoons for at least two centuries, so… why the presumtuousness on woot’s part vis-a-vis the non-viability and nonexistent value of such a well-established, well-enjoyed and eminently marketable commodity?

    • wootabega
    • Posted August 7, 2009 at 5:32 pm
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    I’m glad you’re thinking of me at night, as I am ❤

    • wootabega
    • Posted August 7, 2009 at 5:33 pm
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    Thinking of you that is. What I mean to say is that I love you. But alas, we cannot be together, my relentless hatred of political comics forbids it…

  14. wootabega: Actually, it wasn’t so much you as the ideas bandied about that possessed me so. But that was still a great comment! Thanks for the laugh.

    • Longfellow
    • Posted August 8, 2009 at 5:36 am
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    Donna, you say that intent is a “cop-out,” but I would argue that it is the single most distinguishing feature between any two areas of endeavor that happen to use the same medium. For example, the thing that distinguishes documentaries from sitcoms is intent – documentaries seek to educate, sitcoms (in theory) to entertain. Just because they both happen to be on television doesn’t make them the same thing, unless the argument is one regarding television as a medium. The same is true in the case of attempting to compare Art to political cartooning – the difference between the Mona Lisa and a Herblock cartoon is intent; the Mona Lisa (one could argue – I’m no art historian nor scholar) is intended to make one contemplate human nature and ideals of beauty, while Herblock’s work was largely intended to satirically point at the follies of political positions or personalities as a way of enlightening readers as to the reality that sits right in front of them, albeit obscured by Politicking. You could make further distinctions within a field in a similar manner – the work of, say, Mike Lester is intended to congratulate readers who agree with it on having the “correct” set of opinions, as opposed to Herblock’s work (see above).

    I hope this makes it a bit clearer as to why I don’t believe intent is not a “cop-out,” but rather a crucial consideration in evaluating any particular piece or artist.

  15. You’re boring, Snorefellow.

    • Jake
    • Posted August 10, 2009 at 9:48 am
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    Have you ever made a single intelligent reply on this site, Davey? All I have seen from you is “shut up”, “die”, “MSNBC=bad Fox=good”, and other empty comments. Are you capable of forming coherent arguments? Zack claims that he gets rid of people who just babble incoherently and hurl insults, so why hasn’t he gotten rid of you? I have yet to see you say anything that even resembles engaging in intelligent discourse. When people make short comments, you whine that they are trolls; and when people make long, well thought out remarks, you whine about being bored. Are you 12 years old?

  16. You’re not worth it, Stasi-bot troll.

    • Jake
    • Posted August 10, 2009 at 10:56 pm
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    Thanks for proving my point, Davey-boy.

  17. No one cares about your point, troll. You fail.

    • Jake
    • Posted August 10, 2009 at 11:14 pm
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    Ok, whatever. Talking with you is clearly a waste of time. Let me know when you have two brain cells to rub together, Davey-boy.


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